We're going to have an invocation by Honorable J. Ina. Hey, Heavenly Father, we thank you for allowing us to gather here today to take you here. We ask that you touch our minds and hearts with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. Lord, we ask that you let us do things decently. Father, we make you agree. Lord, we ask that when we walk out of here, we give everybody safe, traveling grace and mercy. Lord, we ask that you give us a special prayer for our Council Chairwoman, Ms. Gwinn. Together, we ask all these blessings and regardings in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. The Pledge of Allegiance by Reverend Matthews. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Ms. Lisa Rollcall. Yes, ma'am. Reverend Matthews. Present. Mr. Ina. Here. Mr. Olander. Present. Mr. Heal. Present. Mr. Rolf. Mr. Abear. Present. Mr. Davis. Present. Mr. Doohan. Present. Mr. Adams. Present. Dr. Reen. Present. All right. Reading of the minutes of the previous meeting from the second regular meeting, October 22nd, 2025. Madam Chairman, I commotionally approve. I have a motion by Mr. Adams to approve. Second. Second by Mr. Rolf. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. If no one has an objection, we'll move 14A, the resolution of respect, since it's already been a long meeting, so they don't have to sit through more. For Ms. Clara Johnson up. Does anybody have any objections? You need a motion to that effect, though. I do need a motion for just for the... Okay. I have a motion to adopt, correct? Adopt, yes. I have a motion by Mr. Mat... by Reverend Matthews to adopt 14A, the resolution of respect in memory of Ms. Clara Johnson. It'll be seconded by the council. Any discussion? Thank you, Madam Chair. And Madam Clerk for taking care of this. And I want to say to the family of Ms. Clara Johnson, her son, one of her sons is here, and his lovely wife, as well as other members of the community, that she held very dear to our heart. Ms. Johnson was a pillar in the St. Mary Parish, particularly west end of St. Mary Parish communities. My memories of her go back to when I first started having children, and my children attended her daycare center. I think I may have even had two siblings younger than me that attended her daycare center. She had the kind of heart that was a mother figure to the entire community. Her doors to her home were always open. Both she and her husband made significant impacts in their public service to St. Mary Parish. I can particularly remember and have very fond memories of my work with Ms. Clara Johnson as one of the first commissioners on the Recreation District number five board of commissioners that was formed back in I think maybe 2001 or 2002, when the original vision was laid out by Mr. Joe Davis, former parish council member for the District One community, to erect a civic center in one of the poorest communities in St. Mary Parish, the Four Corners Sarell area over in District One. I can remember getting a visit from Mr. Joe Davis when he came to ask me if I would be interested in serving on that commission to lead the development of that project. I asked him one of the first questions I asked him was who else is serving? He said, well, I just left Ms. Clara Johnson's house, so she's agreed to serve. And he said three other names, one of which I was familiar with at the time and the other person I didn't really know very well. But when he said Ms. Clara Johnson's name, I quickly said, sure, I'll serve because I knew the spirit that she embodied and what she would bring to the table in terms of representing the best interests of the citizens in District One at that time, Rec District Five, which of course is situated within the boundary lines of St. Mary Parish District One. But through that process, I got to know Ms. Johnson a lot more intimately. I got to know her spirit a lot better than I thought I did. And the lady who I thought was just a quiet lady who, you know, was always smiling and loved to take care of children and loved her community, I found out that she had some fire and that she was a person that was resolute and firm in her convictions. And through that process of erecting, developing and erecting the West St. Mary Civic Center in what we now know as Recreation District Number Five, there was a lot of contention that we had to live through in that process. And Ms. Johnson was, again, resolute, she was firm, and when she spoke and she meant something, that was it. She stood on what she believed in. And I saw her passion and her compassion for her community through the work that we did together, serving on that Recreation District and building the beautiful facility that we now have. And she served for quite a few years before she stepped away even into the operation of that facility. And I just, there are very few people in our community that can resound the kind of tenacity and the kind of courage for public service that she did, particularly at the age she was at when she came aboard. That was not something she had to do. She was already enjoying her elder years, she was already retired. She didn't have to take on that mantle and that charge to help us build that facility. But she said, it's something that I want to do because I believe my community deserves this. And that's what she did. And that's what she did. And so I just developed such a greater level of respect and adoration for her, having worked so closely with her through that process. And she was more than supportive of what we now are so proud to have in the Full Corner Sawmill community. So I just have to say to you, Mr. Stanley, and to your entire family, to your wife, to your other siblings and your entire family, what a blessing it was to be connected to her through this public service commitment. And I know that she's sadly missed by your entire family, but she was a treasure to St. Mary Parish as well. So I wanted you to know that. So I'm going to read this resolution into the record. It's a resolution of respect that reads, whereas the Lord Almighty in his infinite mercy and goodness has seen fit to remove from our midst, former vice chair of Recreation District Number 5 Board of Commissioners, Mrs. Clara Johnson. And whereas she owned and operated a daycare center for well over two decades, caring for countless children in the West End of St. Mary Parish. And whereas she was one of the original commissioners of Recreation District Number 5 and was instrumental in the vision and construction of the West St. Mary Civic Center that we now know as the Joseph M. Tooney Davis West St. Mary Civic Center in the Full Corner Sawmill area. And whereas she was as beautiful on the outside as well as on the inside and will be remembered as a treasured parent, grandparent and great, great grandparent. And whereas she will be deeply missed by her loving family and her memories will be cherished forever. And whereas the members of the St. Mary Parish Council wish to acknowledge publicly our sorrow and sympathy to the family of Mrs. Clara Johnson and hopes that the family and community will find comfort in the thought that your grief and sorrow are shared by your friends in this chamber. Now therefore be it resolved by the St. Mary Parish Council through the unanimous adoption of this resolution that we solemnly deliberate with sincere condolences, sympathy and understanding during this time of grief. Adopted and approved by the St. Mary Parish Council in regular session convened on this the 12th day of November and the year of our Lord 2025 approved by our council chair, Honorable Christie, Dr. Christie Rink and attested to by Ms. Lisa Morgan, clerk of the Parish Council. Anybody else have any other comments? The roll call. Thank you so much. This is on item 14A. Reverend Matthews. Yes ma'am. Mr. Ino. Yes ma'am. Mr. Olander. Yes ma'am. Mr. Hill. Yes ma'am. Mr. Hohen. Yes ma'am. Mr. Adams. Dr. Rink. Yes ma'am. And Mrs. Hidalgo. She's absent. We have 10 yeas and one absent and the resolution carries. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to call the family up for a quick photo. If you could. If y'all don't mind. If y'all would come forward. One, two, three. Thank you. Thank you. Our Alex Arda to appear before the council to give an update on the plantation and hotel. When you come up to the podium please identify yourself. A reminder that there's five minutes. Pick up the mic, Alex. I'm sorry. State your name for the record. Alex Arda, Yannick. I'm not going to go any of the nonsense that happened. I'm not going to say that I wasn't here. I'm just going to promise what I promised. Try to finish what I promised. As we requested by June. By June. And one word, he's fired. That's what he's doing. And you guys check the record. That's all I'm going to say. And I came yesterday, cleaned up a little bit. Tomorrow we're cutting the grass. If I don't do it by summertime, I'll sign the deed to you guys. Can you speak a little louder please? Of course. I said I'm going to go with the plan that we did it on September. As I promised I will finish it by June summertime. And if I don't finish it, I'll sign the deed to you guys as a gift. And I promise you. Thank you, Madam Chair. So you're asking us to give you until the summer of 2026 to finish the project. We discussed this and I signed it over to us as a deed. Do you have a set of construction plans to accompany that schedule? Yes. I talked through the Cardinal company that does supplies. They're sending me two electricians and one blower. I didn't meet any electric group but homeless they cut a lot of electric. Now I've got to redo it again. So yes, I have planned it. I have meeting tomorrow also to get going today with a little bit of cleaning myself and some other gentleman that was helping me. I promise you I'll finish it. I'm not going to go further. If I may, I wanted to let you know I got a call from Mr. Chris Grow, which is his attorney. Correct. Letting me know that the please pass on that you all are in the process of an insurance claim and it was currently pending. So he wanted me to let you all know that. If you guys worried about that insurance that he kind of came up and I did a fake this, fake that. All I said is seven hundred fifty thousand we spent so far. Insurance that we claimed has nothing to do with that seven hundred fifty thousand at the time that we spent our money. And the claim that he came up with nonsense is March two thousand twenty five and July two thousand twenty five claim that we made. They didn't even reject it or they haven't even. So in other words, like the lawyer called you, he's going to be coming in the board. How can someone lies and tells it fraud and this and that I'm too old for that and I have too much to lose to play that kind of games. That's all. Questions from the solid. No, I just reiterate that we're going to hold your feet to the fire that that by the sum of twenty six that is completed. Because they were, you know, this has been dragging on a long time. It's plenty long enough, but I hope you can finish it by the sum of twenty six. If not, we'll have to take other measures to respect that. And I will show you if I were going to finish it. Why do I start to begin with? Second of all, you have to understand I'm fighting with the mother nature plus bad neighborhood. Very bad. OK, yeah, question, comment. The last time we met here, planning zoning had went and did inspection on the place. I talked to gentlemen, correct. And she almost fell through the second floor. My question is, how are you going to secure this place from anyone not getting hurt on the property? I am talking to Sheriff Department tomorrow. One of their I don't know who's going to be hiding to have some security there, especially in the night time and hours. Are you not looking to put up any type of fence in post out there? The other side of the hotel, which is the shopping center, they have the same problems. Any of you welcome to see properties so far? What we did, what is going on and what they did. My concern is someone getting hurt. Also, at the last meeting, the gentleman that was here with you said that the wall that was facing the street was fixing to fall. All right. So that's another concern that the bricks will fall on that street or fall on the car that passing. That's another concern. OK, if I may. I have the insurance company, Francis report, engineer report. There is nothing wrong on the structures. I'd be glad to get it. It's in my car. I apologize. Don't you get the pain and zoning? That's the lady that's going to be in charge of everything. I thought I would shut you down or let you go forward. OK, I will. I will. I will. I would like to give it a copy right now after I can talk to her or whatever. So there's nothing to worry about. It's in the writing. It's signed by three engineers. I'll finish it. That's all I'm sure you guys can expect it anyway. Is there a way we can still move forward with the condemnation and rescind it if he has actually done anything? Any substantial improvements instead of waiting until June? I'm OK with that. What are you going to do for the outside? I'm just waiting for this meeting to see what the decision was, the feel of this group, to see what y'all think should be done. Come a little closer to the mic. Sorry about that. Just wondering really what y'all wanted to do moving forward. It's been kind of back and forth with these last couple of meetings. So it's my intention. I'd like to move forward with the condemnation that we had previously. I have a question. Is there even power on at the facility? How are you going to do any construction work with no power? You would have to get a renovation permit. How long have you owned this property? Have they ever had power on at the facility? No. Have you ever had power turned on? She's saying no. She's in charge of it. When did you have power? OK. You had a permit for electricity? Is that temporary power? Irregardless, you need a permit to get power turned on. Correct. No, they don't. Temporarily you have to have a permit. Any power turned on, you have to go through her. So that's why... No, sir. If there was ever power turned on and you said yes, and she said no, and she would know because she's in charge of the department. So there's never been power turned on in a year and a half. What did they do when they'd done the work there? How were they doing the work? OK. You can't do that. Anybody else have any other questions? What do we need to do to move forward? I think the combination letter would have to be sent to Mr. Yannick and his partner. There's two owners. So they both have to receive... Sure. Please state your name when you get up to the microphone. My name is Joseph O'Day. Last name is Bill O'Doy. Another O'Day. David. The fact of the matter is that when I came in, the very first time that the property was condemned, I told them that we're going to fix the place. But unfortunately, as Alex said, and I was touring the property for over three, four hours today, a lot of homeless people, they crashed into the property, they broke something, they did a lot of things. That was not... it was unexpected. So as he promised, you know, I have done this in California many times, and it's not something that's new for me. I can sign. I'm certified accountant. I finished law school in California, and also I'm a real estate broker. So at the end, I know what's happening. But definitely as early as tomorrow morning, Alex is going to get permits for electricity. But if the electricity is on because they cut all the wires, you know, my knowledge is only in accounting and law, but I know nothing at all about construction. But I'm worried that if they turn on the electricity after it gets a permit, and then all the wires, they were cut, they may cause some problems or maybe a spark or something that they may start a fire or something. As I said, I repeat again, I know nothing about... when I know something, I talk about it. So I know nothing about construction. He's the one who's taking care of it. But at the end of the day, when you mentioned about getting the permit, I can definitely... I'm here to promise first in the morning he's going to go and get... pull a permit for electricity. But again, we have to find out before they turn it on. We have to be careful that nothing would happen or it's not going to cause a major problem. Finally, what I had in mind is this. I would tell you no matter what, and then if you give us some time, not up to June, at least a couple of months, we make sure to come back again together with Alex. We give you all the success and also the contracts. The contract for wiring, the contract for construction, for the roof, everything. And then we will have certified contractors or the architect. They just mentioned that how long it would take and we make sure definitely it would finish. Because when Alex was here on June, they told him, we give you up to June. They are not going to condemn you, but we're going to give you time up to June to finish this. So again, on the pretext of perjury, I tell everybody that, as I said, not to be repetitious. First in the morning, he's going to pull the permit for the electricity. And then whatever time you give us, you can discuss it. If it's two months, it's too long, tell us how long you give us. During that time, I make sure that definitely, I come personally myself, and usually he's always here. I make sure that I have letters from the contractors, roofers, and everybody else. Not only they mention exactly what they're going to do, it's going to be contractor and architect. And definitely they're going to pull a permit when we hire them. They definitely will pull a permit from the city, and then they would start the job. So finally, during the time, the short period, not up to June, that you give us, again, I make sure that we're going to bring you those letters from the contractors and the architect, and also show you that the permit was pulled by them. And then I have them to certify that this is what they're going to do and when it's going to finish. So definitely if you have to pay overtime to them or extra charge, we do it definitely to finish it before June. I rest my case. If you have any questions, ask me, I'll answer you. I am a general contractor, so I'm very familiar with the process. You don't have to worry about the electricity, because what you would be getting is a temporary power pole. It's not turning on the main power at the facility, because it's probably not prepared for that, right? Because all the wires were cut and what have you. I don't know, I hadn't been in there. But you'd be putting a temporary power up, and whoever puts that up, you'd get the temporary power turned on, so you have power at the facility to start. I don't think this council is giving a deadline. I wouldn't give you a deadline if you've got contractors steadily working out there, working, getting progress done. That's what this council is looking for. But we were told a couple of months ago that we're fixing to get started, and I live not far from there. I pass by there multiple times a day. It hasn't been one person there doing anything, anything whatsoever. And it's been like that for probably a year. It's been a long, long time. I did see one guy out there that had an old truck that was cutting some grass with a pushmore and a machete. You know, he was getting it done, but that's about all I've seen out there in a long, long time. And I go by there often. Every day I'm by there. So if you don't have an architect already involved, I mean, that takes time. It takes a lot of time to get that process going, right? I do a lot of construction, so I'm clearly aware of the process. And if you don't even have that lined up, that's months to get that process started, much less a lot of your contractors. And I don't think none of us needs to see your contracts what we want to see is the contractors working. If they working, we don't care about your contract, that the progress is getting done, the repairs are getting made, you know, the homeless stuff that was going on. That was because everything's been abandoned and nobody's been out there, and the police has been struggling with it to keep that from being in those conditions. So once you start progressing, you start construction and work, and no homeless people are going to show up there because stuff is going on. They don't want to be there when stuff is going on. But if you've been by there lately, it looks pretty rough, and it looks very easy that somebody could just walk in and live and do, you know, it's going to be drug-infested. And that neighborhood is one of the finest neighborhoods around. That is a very, very nice neighborhood. And that's the biggest ice sore in that entire neighborhood. So it just needs to be dealt with. Madam Chair. Can I rebuttal and answer? I just showed... I forgot the name. The name is generator. Generator, you as a contractor, I'm very happy that you are here and you are a contractor. The generator would generate electricity based on what I was told. So instead of... He's going to put the permit anyway to have the electricity, but he doesn't need to turn it on. What we are going to be doing is the generator is going to be there to create electricity and have the job done until all the wires are back to normal. You cannot work off of a generator. That's a big, big project to tip the work off of a generator. I mean, we would work off a generator who is going to be able to shade it. Right? I mean, two, three day project. That's a very, very big project. And we got big power panels for those type of projects, right? Because you just can't work off of a generator. It would just make no sense. I'm not the right person in contracting, but let me address something. Well, I am, and that's why I want you to be aware of it, that you can. I'm going to ask you a question. Based on your experience, if the contractor, the general contractor, and whoever is necessary is being hired right away, how long do you think it would take to finish this? That project? A year, year and a half? To do it correctly? I mean, that's... That's seven months, that's for sure. Well, I... I get it. I get it. You know, that's a large facility, with a lot of work that needs to be dealt with, a lot of demo, if that was brand new construction, it's different because that goes so much quicker, so much quicker. But all the renovation of getting rid of all the mold and all the issues they have over there, stuff that you don't even know is there, when you start tearing it out, you will find it. And so all that just takes more and more time, and it's a process to go through. Just like you said, they already cut all the wires. That whole place then has to get rewired. But, you know, that's a couple of months in itself to deal with those type of issues, you know. And I'm just talking from experience. This is what it's going to take, you know. I would love to see it. I'd love to see it. But it wouldn't be hard to see a couple of weeks worth of progress. And I've seen a couple of weeks worth of progress. I could assure these guys up here saying, hey, look, he's moving in the right direction. But, I mean, two months ago we were told, we're fixing to get started. And we didn't even get a power pole up yet. That's the first thing you do when you show up. Turn on power. Turn your mic, Mr. Alex. Talk to the mic. September, September, I said, I'll be starting to give me a month, month and a half. Here I am, month and a half. And we don't even have a temporary power pole up. You'll see it tomorrow. I mean, that's a process. You've got to get that inspected, even get that turned on. Yes. If I don't get it, depends on the electric company, how soon they're going to bring it. If I don't show you the permit, then tell them. The electric company will do it as soon as you get a permit. And the inspector comes and inspects it, makes sure it's correct. Power company will show up that day and the next day and turn on your power. That's very quick. Why don't you give that back? September, now month, month and a half, I said, I'll be here. Yes. Because of the Halloween, I asked, then I made an appointment with the first in November and I'm here. Yes. Mr. Abebe, I appreciate you. I personally don't think y'all are going to get it done. I think you're just talking and I think we're not going to see y'all again after today. That's my personal opinion. So I think we just should move forward with the condolence. I don't have any confidence in you. Mr. Joseph, before you sit down, can you spell your last name for me again? Thank you. Last name is Bill O'Oscar D. David A. Apple I. India D. Edwards. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Lisa, can we put this on the next agenda with the condolence, please? Does everything need to be done for that? No. Ms. Mandy will have to explain the process. Okay. There's a process. Okay. That's the first available date, then. I'm sorry. I just have only one sentence. Can I say it? The fact that you said nothing was done, as I told you, I toured the place. The hotel is 196 units. We have one part, 120, one is 7,000 units. The other is 76. Alex is here to testify. He told me the one with 120 units, the major part of the hotel, only has three problems. One that he said, which is very easy, buying the furniture that he already signed up in some place and he can get the furniture. Number two, he told me heating and conditioning. So heating and conditioning for this hotel, he would tell you how long it is. Heating and conditioning, you call the heater and conditioner place, then they put it in. But the reason I'm saying this, pretty soon we're going to get permission from the city to open up that 120 units. I repeat again, only three problems. I'm more than happy to have you come as a contractor to check the one for 120 units. The other 20 units, heating and air conditioning, furniture, and also he said some of the doors that are broken, we have to put it back again. So I don't think that would take a long time, but I want you to look at it because I know he was telling me it would work back, but I can't afford it. But then I told you, give us two months, let's make it shorter. Let's make it even one month. Now we have also Thanksgiving ahead of us. Today is the 11th, am I right? November 11th up to December 11th, fair enough, or December 10th. December 8th happened to be my birthday. I probably I celebrate my birthday to be here. So at the end, if you give us only one month, the contract, everything that I said, give us two months, we don't need two months. Within one month, but I have to beg you, is there any possibility that I meet with you at the property a month from now while I'm giving you all the contracts and everything else and all the progress? Then you can report it to them. If it was not done within one month, you are worried. I'm talking about getting the contractor, getting the licenses, permits to the remodeling construction. And also the contract with all the contractors. Within one month, when we met, you choose the date. I make sure I'll be here. But between now up to a month, I make sure everything that I told you to be ready. When I meet with you, look at it. If you are satisfied, you can tell the council to know. If you are not satisfied, I'm more than happy to tell you, you can do the condemnation. I'll be happy to meet you out there anytime you want. December 10th, what time is good for you? A month from now. Tomorrow? On a month? No, no. Today, yes. No, no, no, wait. I can go tomorrow, look and see all these units that looks like they might be ready. No, no, they want that. 420 units. You can look at it any day, tomorrow or whatever. But a month from now is going to be December 10th. You tell me what time is good for you, that I present you with everything. I don't need two months, only one month. Randy, I have a quick question for you. If the condemnation process was started again, how much time will that be before it appears back on our agenda for condemnation? Because they still have that timeframe correct to make sure that they are ready. They still have that timeframe correct to make improvements? Would that give them time to make improvements? Well, what's the timeframe that they still have at that point? Is it three weeks, four weeks before? Okay, so I would have to send them a letter, they would have to receive it. That gives them 10 days notice and it can be placed when the agenda. But they can still make improvements until the condemnation is finalized, correct? Yes, they can. So that gives them about, I guess, like 60 days, really. Okay. And at the time of voting, we could just not vote? I mean, if they... I just wanted to clarify that on the record, you know, that if we started this process tonight, that doesn't mean that they can't continue to try and make these improvements that they're promising. That those improvements can still continue ahead. And if they're not made in that 60 day timeframe, then we can proceed ahead and we're not back to square one again. And if they do make significant progress, we can pause the demolition. Correct. That's correct. That's what we did last time. Is that understood? Okay. Okay. So even if Mandy sends a letter saying that we're going to request condemnation again, then that still gives about a 60 day timeframe, 45, 60 day timeframe, to make improvements and show you're making progress before we actually condemn the facility. So it's not saying that immediately after you receive that letter, you can make no additional progress. It just moves the process forward for us. So we're not wasting time in the meantime. And if it gets to that point, we're in a month as you're requesting Mr. Abear to go out there. If there isn't enough improvement, then he can come back to us and say, hey, you know, this is where they're at in this process. You know, and we can continue to proceed ahead. I think that's the request from the council right now. Even if the condemnation is approved, they still have 60 days after that. So they do have time. It still has time. Okay. I know about the condemnation. I'm writing off my address, telephone number, email, everything. I will hand it to her that she records it. But I asked her if I can do it after I finish this. At the end, the one that I said, as a contractor, can we meet with him exactly a month from today? That's up to his schedule. But I'm going to ask him again. Because I live in California. I know about tomorrow. Sorry, I know you're going there tomorrow to look at the 120 units he's going to show you. But since I'm in California, I have to make plans to be very ahead of time. Are we still on for that in one from now that he can show you all the progress? Just give me the date and the time, please. I'm good with that. He's got my number. You call me when you're coming down. I'll meet with you. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. After the meeting tomorrow, we'll get that straight. So there's meeting you're going. We got a lot of stuff to deal with tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Give me one second. Okay, that's fine. Yes, six B. Freddy Fournette appeared before the council to discuss the request for resumption of the contract. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're going to take a minute for the council to discuss the request for rezoning a property by Jaina from agricultural AG zone district to neighborhood commercial in C zone district. Come up here and restate your name and your address for the record. Good evening, madam chair and chairman of Samio Parish Council. My name is Freddy Fournette and I live at 302 Tallowood Street, Franklin. Not living in Camprey subdivision, my family owns property in Camprey subdivision. property in Caffrey subdivision. I'm here as spokesperson for most of the families, residents, and property owners of Caffrey subdivision. We have a few questions for the council concerning ordinance number 2406, the request for rezoning of one property in the middle of Caffrey subdivision. But first, I wish to point out what I understand to be on or about March of 2007, a very familiar situation existed regarding a request for the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish. Let me come back to that point a little bit later. In July of this year, the ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two appeared before the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish. This Planning and Zoning Commission of seats under the ST Mary Parish Council was appointed with participation of this same representative. The council in this parish, the council in this parish council upon which the representative presently sits. Do we have a conflict of interest here? And that same appearance before the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish, ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two requested the zoning of one property in ST Mary Parish District two by J. Ina of Agriculture Zone Zone District to Neighborhood Commercial Zone District at 603 Sycamore Street, Franklin, Louisiana. Four other people also appeared before this commission in objection to request for rezoning of the same property in ST Mary Parish District two owned by the same ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two. It has been noted that the discussion during this appearance lasted over 50 minutes, which is about 65% of the total time of the entire Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Yet the commission voted unanimously in favor of the request to rezone without requesting additional information. Do we have a conflict of interest here? And the same presence appearance July of 2025 before the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish, the ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two stated that the first concern heard about the rezoning of the property owned by the same ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two was in the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting who received a request for rezoning. How is it possible that the plans for this request by the ST Mary Parish representative for District two were not able to properly communicate to the constituents of District two who are also neighbors of this property? Do we have a conflict of interest here? Additionally, in the same appearance before the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish, a petition dated July 18th 2025 signed by residents, family members, members of the church community in Caffrey subdivision and property owners in and around Caffrey subdivision was presented to the Planning and Zoning Commission, a copy of which you were also presented. The significance and weight of this position was hardly recognized by the Planning and Zoning Commission. A second petition dated November 12th 2025 has also been made available to the ST Mary Parish Council in order to further demonstrate the position and wishes of most of Caffrey subdivision neighborhood. Do we have a conflict of interest here? With the ST Mary Parish Council representative of District two, the owner of the property earlier referenced and the parish representative of the neighborhood, all being one in the same person, the neighborhood had no choice but to plead its case directly before the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish and now directly before ST Mary Parish Council as a whole, all without representation. It would seem by these circumstances that the Planning and Zoning Commission of ST Mary Parish and this council are both out of order for for allowing the proposal of an ordinance by sitting council representative that directly involves the council representative without seeking additional information or legal opinion. Now to follow up on our similar situation, it is my understanding that in or about March of 2007, Mr Peter soprano applied for a building permit to build a building on property he already owned in order to build in order to open a business. He was denied that permit by the Louisiana Board of Ethics because he was a sitting ST Mary Parish Council representative. Is that very similar to the situation that we have now? Yeah. Therefore, I respectfully request that the ST Mary Parish Council seek an advisory opinion from the Louisiana Board of Ethics before further action. Thank you for your time and attention. Questions. Thank you. Yeah. Public comment. I have Mr Jeffrey Beverly. Moving on us, Mr Jeffrey, please state your name for the record again. My name is Jeffrey Beverly. I serve as the housing director for ST Mary Community Action. I've been, um, I've been in housing for over 40 years as a housing counselor, certified housing counselor for her. And as of 1995, we've developed housing in the amount of over $5 million in St Mary Parish. And I'm an advocate for all kinds of housing that's decent and safe for everyone. Is imperative that we continue to be able to do that so that everybody have an opportunity for housing. In the only reason that I'm here is because, uh, in my 40 years of how the human St Mary Parish, I have never seen the process go to full length and then be denied. And that's a very serious concern for me because it gets into a great area of fair housing. And I just wanted to make sure that we stay focused on the process. My concern was just the process in this matter. It is very difficult to do housing in any matter, any form, and it's very expensive to do in the application that I heard because I haven't seen all of the facts that we're talking about maybe at the largest seven juveniles being housed. And, um, I'm not sure what the concern is, but, um, I believe that every neighbor should have the right to express themselves of their concerns and also every opportunity to move housing forward in St. Mary Parish should be given also. And so I just wanted to make sure that as a representative of fair housing in St. Mary Parish that I just expressed my concerns only about the process because it seems like the process was followed. Everybody did what they had to do and the zoning was approved. And that's my comment. Thank you, Miss Beverly. Thank you. That's Snyder. State your name for the record, Miss Ann. My name is Ann for net shakes. Nighter. I'm here on behalf of my father who was not able to make it today. I'm gonna read what he had prepared. Um, ladies and gentlemen, the St. Mary Parish Council, the town of Franklin has nurtured all of us pretty well, and it's been really good to us. Caffrey subdivision was the brainchild of our forefathers post World War two. This subdivision was designed designed to accommodate a new hospital with America Medical Complex of homes and offices surrounding Franklin Foundation Hospital. This happened in the late 19 forties. These plans served the people of West St. Mary very well for over 65 years. Today, you're not here to make a political decision. You're not here to make economical decision, and you're not here to make a social decision. You're here to make a judgment as to whether the ideas and actions of one man can override the wishes and decisions of the subdivisions residents. Let me hasten to emphasize most of the subdivision residents or opposed to rezoning. Franklin is a quiet and peaceful town, and I urge you do not change this tranquility. Leave things as they are. Questions. That's neither Dr Tonya Johnson. State your name for the record here. Dr Tonya Johnson. Good evening, members of the council, community residents and neighbors. My name is Dr Tonya Johnson, and I come before you today as a mental health professional, educator, school counselor, advocate for Children and a proud member of this community. I understand that the proposal for an adolescent home in our community has raised questions and concerns. Change often does, but I want to take a moment to share with you why this proposal deserves not only our support, but also our understanding and our compassion. As someone who has worked closely with you, especially those who have experienced trauma, neglect or instability, I can tell you that a group home is not a place of danger. It's a place of healing. It's a structured, supervised environment where trained staff help young men learn responsibility, emotional regulation and life skills that will help them become productive citizens. These are not troubled young men to be feared. They are Children in need of guidance, consistency and belonging. Many of them have simply lacked the stable support system that so many of us take for granted. I also want to address some of the common misconceptions. This home will be licensed, regulated and professionally staffed. It will not be a drop in shelter or correctional facility. The residents will have structured routines, school therapy and community participation. Safety and accountability are built into every part of this program. Beyond the technical details, though, I want us to consider the moral and human side of this. When we welcome these young people into our community, we are sending a message that we believe every child is worthy of a second chance that we believe in community, not just when it's convenient, but when it's compassionate. And let's not forget our community strength has always come from our willingness to invest in others. Every teacher, mentor, coach and neighbor who once extended a hand to help a child change someone's story. That's what this group home represents hope a hand extended to help these boys find their footing, find their way, confidence and their future. I've had the opportunity to personally work with young men from a group home and have seen firsthand the transformation that can happen when youth are given a safe, supportive environment. A young man who once saw no hope can go on to graduate, get a job and give back to this very community. These success stories don't just happen. They're built on community partnerships like the one we're discussing tonight. So I ask you, let's leave with facts, but also with heart. Let's show these young men that our parish stands for inclusion, restoration and growth. And let's remember that when we invest in our youth, we invest in the safety, stability and future of our entire community. Thank you for your time, your forward thinking and your commitment to doing what's right, not just for today, but for the generations that will power. Thank you. Anybody have any questions for Mr Johnson? Where Dr Johnson? Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir. I don't have any questions for Dr Johnson per se, but I do want to commend her for bringing that perspective to this conversation. Um, because it sounds very similar and it makes me recollect some of my remarks in a previous meeting where this was on our agenda and I'm constantly hearing the undertones that are that are suggesting that a home like this is gonna disrupt the neighborhood. It's gonna bring is gonna disrupt the peace that the citizens in this neighborhood have enjoyed for so many years and being being a person that has operated in the health care sector for a number of years and has administered programs similar to this. Um, I just I'm I'm I'm grieved at the fact that this kind of misinformation is out and being and being shared throughout the community. Um, and it does suggest that we are that some of us are against or have an issue with, um, with helping people to experience a better quality of life, particularly children. Um, it's I just think it's it's unfair that this proposed project or item has gotten that type of negative publicity and has been so grossly misrepresented because that's not what this is. And I would encourage those of you that feel that way to do some research, do some real research and and and look at communities where these types of, uh, programs are being implemented and gain some knowledge of the facts of why the state of Louisiana has even invested in this type of provider, this type of provider type because there's a there's a need for it. And because the research and and the factual data would would provide evidence that there is no threat to your community. There is no threat to our community. And it's a shame that anyone would suggest that, particularly those that know better but refuse to say it. Thank you. Yeah, I have a question for Morgan. Um, pretty for net stated that pass that unethical is is this correct? I mean, are we even able to vote on this? Can you give us a little clarification? I really can't because that our office, the DA's office isn't allowed to issue ethics opinions. Um, and unfortunately the, um, our ethics board, their online database isn't searchable like the attorney generals is. So I can't even pull that opinion to read it to see the finding. But that would have to be sent to the ethics board. Our office can't answer ethics opinions, can't issue ethics opinions. Madam Chair, if I could, um, just just for the record, clarify for Councilman Orlando that you referenced Mr Fournette's, uh, discourse as being, uh, the same thing that we're deliberating tonight. It's not the same thing. There might be some similarities, but to suggest that and it's already been suggested and in my opinion, incorrectly, that this is the same situation. It's not. And the ethics administration has the responsibility toe way every situation because of the merits of that situation, which may there may be some different dynamics that are not identical to what Mr Soprano, uh, Mr Soprano situation was 10 or 15 years ago, however many years ago it was. So I just think we need to, we need to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges and not mix all of that in one basket because it's not the same thing. Mr Charmaine, ST Jermaine, that your name for the record, ma'am. Good evening, Madam Chair, members of the parish council. My name is Charmaine ST Jermaine. I live at 1701 Hospital Avenue in Caffrey subdivision. I'm here to voice my objective objection to ordinance number 2406, which is specifically about the rezoning of one property in the middle of our neighborhood. The ordinance is about rezoning nothing else. That's all it is stated. And that's what I'm up here voicing my objection to. The ordinance would change the present zone of agriculture to neighborhood commercial in order to ensure assure a greater understanding of the neighborhood commercial district. The explanation reads as follows. The neighborhood commercial district is defined by the unified development ordinance in the zoning district purpose statement as the zoning of property for neighborhood commercial. This zoning is intended to provide for small scale, limited impact retail and office businesses on relatively small sites in convenient proximity to residential neighborhoods. No, it does not say in the middle of the neighborhood and convenient proximity to residential neighborhoods. The uses permitted within the neighborhood commercial district are meant to be compatible with largely residential areas and serve the retail and personal service needs of nearby residents. The nature of the permitted uses and scale of buildings are intended to blend with adjacent and nearby properties without causing adverse impact. The neighborhood commercial district specifically directs such development to sites at or near intersections of major roads to enhance enhanced access and minimize traffic growth and safety concerns on the minor rural, rural, rural, rural, rural, rural, rural roads. Say that 10 times. Anyway, thank you. Just wanted to state some facts. Yeah, that's Alice Freeman. Good evening, Madam Chair and members of the Paris Council. My name is Alice Freeman. I live at 1609 Cynthia Street in the campus subdivision. I am here to voice my objection to ordinance number 2406. The rezoning of one property in the middle of our neighborhood. The ordinance will change the present zone of agriculture to neighborhood commercial. This zoning will not serve the needs of the neighborhood as described in the unified development ordinance. Zone district purpose statement. Thank you very much. Let me speak. Yeah. This Maria Longman. I sound like a broken record, but please state your name. Yes. Good evening. My name is Maria Lydia Longman, also known as Lydia Longman. I reside at 1703 Hospital Avenue, Franklin, Louisiana. I am here to voice my objection to ordinance 2406. The rezoning of one property in the middle of our neighborhood. The ordinance will change the present zone of agriculture to neighborhood commercial. This rezoning has no retail or office business value to the neighborhood as described in the unified development ordinance. Zoning district purpose statement. Bowdoin Yeah. Good afternoon. My name is Super day. I live at 1605 synth history in campus subdivision. I'm here to voice objection to the ordinance of number 2406. The rezoning of one property in the middle of our neighborhood. I said rezoning nothing else. The ordinance will change the present zone of agriculture to neighborhood commercial. The rezoning of this property from agriculture to neighborhood commercial is intended to be in a convenient proximity to the residential neighborhood, not in the middle, as described in the unified development ordinance zoning district purpose statement. Thank you. Yeah. Anybody else have any other public comment? Yeah. I said appears to be a lot of folks in the audience. Can we move up 13 C? No one has an objection. Yeah. Can you read 13? Yes, ma'am. So the record. This was referred from the October 22nd 2025 regular council meeting for adoption vetoed and ordinance and compliance with ordinance number 1973 chapter five procedures, divisions 5.4 general procedures for public hearing sections 5.4.2 rezoning zoning map amendments for Mr J. Ina and HRC section 2-13 C to read up the ordinance by the favorable vote of at least three fourths of his membership. What is your wishes? This Lisa? Can you explain what a yes and a no vote is on this particular? I was gonna ask Mrs Hillary to do that if you don't mind. Thank you. Yeah. So it specifically reads readopt the ordinance. So you're moving to readopt the ordinance that was previously vetoed. So a yes would be to adopt Councilman Ina's ordinance. A no would be to reject the ordinance. Does anyone have any other interpretation of that? I had the same thing. Okay. Okay. Uh, Miss Morgan, please elaborate on, um, what the number of votes it would take is part of to pass this option. Yes, sir. Of this council of 11, nine votes will be required. Yes, sir. And votes of the members present or nine votes of the council, the body of the council of the council. Have a motion. I'll move on a motion by Mr Matthews. A second by Mr Olander. Any other discussion? Question. Just bring that up. Um, at this point, you know, we know an ethics opinion can only be obtained from two different sources, either us as a council as a whole, the body that's affected or the person that's involved in the process. So either that would be us as a council requesting by majority or um, Councilman Ina requesting himself. So I'm just tossing that out there. Is that something that was even discussed as a possibility? Because I was just made aware of this possible ethics issue after our last meeting discussing this topic. I just wanted some input from everybody else on on that feeling determined that after the vote. No. Well, I mean, yes, but then the vote the issue is if there is an ethics violation and there's a previous affirmative vote, then you come into I can't really speak for the ethics board. But I do know that you're they'd be going retroactive. So instead of saying, No, you can't do that. That's already been done. So you're facing the possibility of of penalties, fines, actions on behalf of the Ethics Commission. Um, again, I can't speak to the ethics board too much because we're not allowed to commingle with them through our office. But, um, it you would run into more trouble and getting an opinion after the fact. Have a question if there would be an issue. I don't know that there is. Um, I guess my question is, uh, Councilman Ina, his position, will he be able to even vote on this? That is also an ethics question. Question. That's another. Yeah, that would be an ethics question that Mr. Ina Councilman Ina would have to seek. But does this have to be a certain amount of time limit for the veto? Correct? Yes. If I did wait, we would be gone. The time frame would be Miss Lisa. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is the last meeting that this can be action can be taken. Yeah, up to for the charter. Madam Chair, according to the ethics classes that I've been taking over the last four years, I've known the council any time you any time on Councilman has a personal gain or something. You cannot. You should not be involved in the discussion of anything to go with this. I would deny them. And I don't know if y'all got the same thing. I get out of it. That's what I've been getting out of. Am I right? Or I don't know. Y'all gotta take them like I do. It's coming up in January. I'm gonna questions. Question is, is it too late to go to effort? Yes. I'm gonna yes. And I didn't know. Yes and no. You can. You can always get an ethics opinion. The issue is, is that this is the last meeting that this action can be taken on this item. I guess. So my question is, then if we vote on it and then it's an ethic violation, then we could be fine. Possibly possibly. Right. The council could be fine or or the proposal of the ordinance could be. There's a possibility of both depending on the commission's findings. Again, I know I'm not much health in regards to the ethics board, but there's a possibility of it depends on their findings. And just as you said, each situation is so individual. It's every little detail matters. I guess I have one other legal question for you. So if this was not voted on tonight or if it is voted on and pastor put down for this to be repurposed, does it have to go through the planning and zoning process and everything all over again? Okay, yes. Uh, Miss Mandy might know more than me on that, but I believe that once it's action is taken, say it's negative. I think that was your proposal. That the process starts all over again. That correct, Mandy. And so it would come back to the council. The starting point would be the parish council. Okay, so would not have to go through planning. Okay. Other question. If it goes back to square one, we would go to the ethics board to find out if this is even ethical. Depends on how the boat turns out. I would suggest that given all the concerns tonight, so it would go to zoning first. No, it would start back at the parish council had already been through planning and zoning and they've made their recommendations and given that there's no changes to the plan and everything's the same as it was with the original application with planning and zoning. It would start back at the council with their previous recommend. We're going to make recommendations that check into ethics. All right. Yes, the council could make that decision. Anybody else have any other questions? A vote. Hey, this is on item 13 C. Mr. Mr. I know this. Mr. Lander. No, ma'am. Mr. Hill. Mr. Rolfe. No, ma'am. Mr. A bear. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Davis. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Do horn. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Adams. No, ma'am. Dr. Rink. No, ma'am. Mrs. Adalgo. She's absent and Reverend Matthews. We have six shades. Four nos and one absent and it fails. Madam Chair, if I may could I have to say something right quick? I want to read a little quick statement. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everybody that came and express support for this ordinance. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm glad that the public was able to see that one small group of opponents did not represent the things of the entire community. As you know, I've gone through every proper channel to establish a licensed group home. I followed every step of the process. Proved by the zoning board and it was approved by the full Paris Council. But unfortunately, despite meeting all of the requirements, the approval was vetoed by our Paris president and overrides fair. Since my effort to legally and lawfully establish a group home was intentionally blocked by the Paris president in my opinion because of what I believe to be racially more than legal. Because of what I believe to be racially motivated and your support of a neighborhood group that has cleared discriminatory feelings about the project. I'll be filing a complaint. I'll be checking the ethics out. But in the meantime, I kind of anticipated that this might happen. So until the legal actions have taken its course, I've decided to move forward with an alternate business plan. That is fully compliant with the UDC for St. Mary Parish under the UDC private homeowners myself are free to rent their property without permits or zoning changes provided no regulatory services are offered. This means the home would not operate as a group home and would not provide any services beyond standard house. Surrounding. Going forward in 2026. I'll be working with agencies such as the St. Mary Parish reentry coalition. The Louisiana prisoner reentry initiative and several other organizations to provide housing to individuals that have recently been released from incarceration. Our mission remains unchanged to provide safe quality affordable housing in a good neighborhood for individuals who are committed to rebuilding their lives. Stable housing is a cornerstone of success of successful reintegration. I believe our community benefits. Everyone has had a fair chance to succeed. It's worth noting that had the original business plan been supported. This process would have been more structured and would have had much more insight oversight. Instead. I will simply be exercising my rights as a homeowner to rent my property to who I choose. Which is something that UDC clearly allows as a private property owner. And I don't have to go through any process for that. I don't need a request special permission. I don't need any zoning changes. There's no need for a vote. Nor would there be any opportunity but veto. So although some may feel like the vote on the ordinance was a victory for them. It was just one battle at the war. That may be absolutely clear. I will never allow an individual or group to dictate what I do with my property. Nor will I ever allow any individual or group to feel as if they have the power to undermine my lawful rights. It's not going to happen. So the funny looks and offensive words that doesn't bother me. And lastly, I want to make it clear that I have no animosity towards anyone that oppose the ordinance either through your vote or through your comments because we all have the right to an opinion. I'm committed to making real positive changes in our parish and this is just a minor issue as far as I'm concerned. I've already pivoted and I'm looking forward to the success of my alternate business plan. And I'm going to make sure that I encourage all of my tenants to introduce themselves to all the neighbors on. Let them come by and touch base with you and hope that they're welcome with open arms. Thank you very much. Madam Sam Jones, let me know when you have your first housewarming party. I'll be there. I'd like to say something to on this. We're up to your report anyway, Sam. What I said, we're up to your report anyway. You're up to my report. Yeah, item a hundred people that was opposed to it. Say this after being attacked unfairly and unreal if this would have been done in reverse and the number of people who were black did not want this. I would have done the same thing. The same thing. Madam chair, I would have said shame on them too. Do you have anything else to report? Mr. President report from personnel. Mr. Paul Gouvernal, chief administrator. Thank you, madam chair. You all have received my report. Some things are informational. The there is a resolution on the agenda to adjust the tipping fees at the landfill. I've consulted, you know, looked at all the operating costs of the landfill consulted with our consulting engineer. And there's a balance, you know, between pricing yourself out of the market and going up and we both felt that a 5% increase to the tipping fee was justified at this time affected December 1st. You have it in my report. It's also in the resolution and I hope that you support that tonight. A couple other things on my report. We've already talked about the cooperative endeavor agreement with our district number 11. I hope you support that. I'm going to move on to item three. District number 11. I hope you support that too, so we can get that money moving to build that fire station in the Four Corners area. The last thing is the fire insurance rating. We got notice from the fire insurance rating division that the Bayou Vista Fire Department their class has increased which is a positive thing for that area may result in decrease fire insurance. So that's a good thing, you know for the Bayou Vista area. Any questions? One question. The city's was notified about the tip of these goes up already. Not yet. Once y'all approve it's not going to go into effect until December the 1st. Once y'all approve it, then it will go out. I just want to congratulate, you know, Chief Price there. Bayou Vista along with the fire district, you know, a lot of hard work to get that rating of decreased. It went from a six down to a four. Anybody else have any questions for Mr. Grouvenault? All right, Miss Mandy LeBall, you're on. So Miss Mandy has 9a recommend preliminary and final subdivision development approval. She has a recommended rezoning and another recommended rezoning and then a recommended preliminary final subdivision that was referred back from the June 16th meeting. Do y'all have any questions? All four of them rev. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, sir. I'm sorry if I could have a second by Mr. Abear. So on it a 1b it is pending BOA approval. And also on a 2a the planning and zoning Commission approved this with a conditional variance to deviate from the requirement of a fire hydrant. Due to practical difficulties in that area. I wanted that to be noted. Not a fire hydrant. Most to it. There is not. Whenever subdivisions come before they are supposed to have in residential areas a fire hydrant within 500 foot of the lot the new newly developed lot. In this area. We do not have water means they have water wells. I did get with the chief and he did sign over a letter saying that he understands that a new construction may take place and that his trucks are able to hold enough water in case something would happen that he parks district district 11. Yes. Do we have to have the motion amended to accept it with the pending Board of Adjustments and conditional. Very happy. If it was already in the report, there's no amendments. Okay, but she just wanted to state it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for pointing that out. Yes, we appreciate that. But I'd like my motion to stay. Okay. Does anybody else have any other questions comments? All in favor. I oppose motion carries. Thank you ma'am. Report of Council meetings public hearing report October 22nd 2025 and have a motion for approval. Thank you. I got a motion by mr. A bear second by David Hill. Sorry David brains not registering the day any other discussion all in favor. All right, any opposed motion carries report of meetings other than Council meetings here. The Marine Corps band plans to mortgage at auditorium December night. I'll be 6 p.m. Anybody else have anything else? I do. I attended the town of Burwick meeting last night in the police chief David Leonard is retiring in the appointed a new police chief JP Henry. I think they made a great choice in in I think you do quite well. I was proud and happy to see he was appointed to that position. Thank you. Congratulations JP. Anybody else have any other discussions or comments any other meetings coming up they want to disclose? Okay, miss Lisa for introduction 12a. 12a is for introduction and ordinance and clients with in compliance with ordinance number 1973 chapter 5 procedures divisions 5.4 general procedures for public hearing sections 5.4 point to rezoning zoning math amendments for E and F property holdings LLC B is for introduction is an ordinance and compliance with ordinance number 1973 chapter 5 procedures divisions 5.4 general procedures for public hearing sections 5.4 point to rezoning zoning math amendments for hope a bear and C is for introduction is an ordinance declaring multiple tax adjudicated properties as surplus property and authorize the parish to proceed with the process for advertising and the sale of such adjudicated properties. What is your wishes? Madam chair so introduced introduction by Mr. Olander 12 a B and C. Mr. Olander. I am. Thank you, sir. 13 adoption of ordinance. Sleeson you can read a and B into the record. Sure will a is for adoption and ordinance establishing establishing a policy governing the requirements of Louisiana revised statues 4214 E to allow for any member of the public with a disability recognized by the Americans with disabilities Act or their designated caregiver to participate in the meetings of the Saint Mary Parish Council remotely by teleconferencing and providing for all matters related there to and B is for adoption and ordinance authorizing the president of Saint Mary to execute a lease agreement between Saint Mary Parish and state of Louisiana Division of administration for the Grand of oil Cove boat landing. Adam chair like to move on 13 a and B. I have a motion by Mr. Olander for 13 a and B a second by Mr. Hill any other further discussion. You have a quick question about this Americans disability Act one the time frames and stuff that were given for reestablishing connections and stuff like that. Is that what's mandated by the state? As it says that if we have someone we can't reconnect with and then our from the then we have to cancel the meeting. I'm just concerned about disruption of meetings and stuff like that. I did a I did I looked at other parishes and I reviewed off the dayers and kind of use what they were using. I have to double check with the. Talk Miss Morgan would have an opinion on it. I don't know. Curious, you know, that's a lot of meetings that potential Nick would put you on the spot now. As a communications person. Anybody else have any other questions? I'm wondering if you are in that. It could get. Yeah, that's a pretty difficult. I can't want to kiss you Tommy. I mean not the way the ordinance is written right now. That's how it stated that if we can't reestablish a connection with this person who's listed five minutes, what are you reading? Okay. The second phone call still does not answer the chairman may at his discretion. If technical problems arise if this is Jay on number two, if technical problems arise that impair the ability of the disabled member of the public to participate in the meeting shall be recessed until the problem is resolved. If the technical issue is not resolved within one hour, the meeting shall be adjourned and the chairperson will use all reasonable means to notify all participants. Literally says we have to cancel the meeting if we cannot reestablish and a and an hour delay. That came out of where? Out of somebody else's ordinance. Yes, that's correct. I don't like that. It could we strike that? I have to reintroduce this all over again to remove that one. If you're just removing it, I don't think you would need a reintroduction. But if you're going to add a different provision such as like maybe a five-minute timeline, then I think it would cause for reintroduction because you're substantially changing it. I would make that motion to amend it to remove Jane. Oh, land. I would like to amend his. You meant it to strike out the J and Mr. Hill, would you second that motion? Okay, so we have an amendment with that amendment. So we have an amendment with that at that item to remove J the complete line. Any more discussion? Okay, I'm gonna do a roll call on 13 a and B with the amendment on B. I mean a I'm sorry. Mr. Orlando. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Hill. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Roth. Mr. A bears ma'am. Mr. Davis. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Dewhorn. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Adams. Yes, ma'am. Dr. Reen. Yes, ma'am. Mrs. Adalgo. She's absent Reverend Matthews. Zaps it. I'm sorry and Mr. I know. It's ma'am. Thank you, sir. I have nine days to absence and the ordinance is carry. Thank you. 14 B is a resolution to Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development Division of Aviation requesting funding to complete Airport Improvements at Harry P. Williams Airport as described in the Capital Improvement Program application. Dated October 31st, 2025. I had to make a clerical financial assistance dated as Miss Lisa corrected. Yeah, see is a resolution approving and authorizing the parish president to execute an intergovernmental agreement with St. Mary Parish Fire Protection District 11 relative to State Capitol Outlay Grant to construct a new fire station. D is a resolution to establish a cost per ton of the disposal of solid waste delivered and accepted by the parish of St. Mary in accordance with the solid waste disposal agreement between the St. Mary Parish Council the cities of Morgan City, Franklin Patterson in the towns of Baldwin and Berwick, Louisiana and E is a resolution requesting an advisory opinion from the Attorney General in reference to the St. Mary Parish president's responsibility to administer budgets and fund allocations as adopted by St. Mary Parish Council and prescribed in local tax election call. I have a motion. Yes, I have a motion by Mr. Hill be through a second by Mr. Adams. Any discussion? Thank you. This is on items 14 BCD and E. Mr. Hill. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Rolfe. Mr. A bear. Mr. Davis. Mr. Do on. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Adams. Yes, ma'am. Dr. Green. Yes, ma'am. Mrs. Hidalgo. She's absent Reverend Matthews. He's absent and Mr. I know and Miss Olander. Yes, ma'am. We have nine days to absence and the resolutions carry. Thank you. Next old business is. Yes, informational and we've already taken care of that earlier just now 16 a is informational 16 B is informational. 16 C the a Chappell I golf course Commission has one vacancy Douglas Streety Jr. And Randy B. She has submitted their applications. What do y'all wish is? Cameron, I like to go ahead and table this for 30 days and bring it back up. Have a motion by Mr. Rolfe to table. Second by Mr. Davis. All those in favor. Any opposed? Motion carries. Consolidated Gravity Drainage District number 2 a and Amelia has five five vacancies. I did receive a receive a late applicant from Mr. Paul Rampman. And so I will place that on the next agenda. Like a like to table this. Okay, you want to table that one? Okay. Mr. Dewhorn would like to table this until when Mr. Dewhorn do you know? Okay, until you return it time and certain we have a motion on the floor and a second by Mr. Adams. Any? All those in favor. Any opposed? Motion carries. Madam Chapman, the motion. Wait, hold on. District number seven and by you this test three vacancies album Metrodream present member and Morton New York present member. What is your wish is like to move them both for the second. I got a second by Mr. Adams. Any discussion? All those in favor. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on one more drainage district number six and Amelia one vacancy no applications received. I just had to put that in the record because Lisa skipped it. I sure did. That was my bad. Okay, what you want to do with that one? Okay. Okay, time and certain Dewhorn. I got a motion to table it to time and certain by Mr. Dewhorn second by Mr. Davis. All those in favor. Any opposed? Motion carries. Can I get a motion for adjournment? I got a motion by Mr. Hill. Obviously a second by Mr. A bear. Can I get a vote? All those in favor. Any opposed? Motion carries.